Episode 459

Bill's interview guests are General Michael Hayden, the former CIA and NSA director and author of the new book, "The Assault on Intelligence: American National Security in an Age of Lies" and Sally Kohn, CNN contributor and author of the new book, "The Opposite of Hate: A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity". Bill's roundtable guests include Jon Meacham, presidential historian and author of the new book, "The Soul of America: The Battle for our Better Angels". Matt Welch is a contributing editor for Reason Magazine and Michael Tubbs is the mayor of Stockton, California.

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